A YEAR WITHOUT RENT, PART 2

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on Monday, May 9th, 2011

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If you’ve been following A Year Without Rent on a regular basis, you no doubt are aware that the second month has been plagued by a rash of last-minute cancellations that, among other things, stranded the car in long-term parking at an airport. It was expensive.

It’s been a frustrating month, and that frustration boiled over the other day in a blog post titled “Get Your Shit Together”, the basic premise being that a lot of filmmakers, being so hell-bent on being artists, forget that they’re essentially running a small business. And, like a small business owner, they have employees under them who depend on their ability to be somewhat organized.

It’s something that transcends budget or genre or shooting format or editing software. It’s the fundamental idea of treating people well, of being a good boss. There’s absolutely no excuse for not being able to control your chaos, at least a little bit. You owe it, not just to the people working for you, but to your film, to your investors (even if said investor is your credit card), to your reputation, and to your career.

Look, no one enjoys making films in chaotic circumstances more than I do. After all, you’re reading an article from someone who once shot and edited a feature film in two weeks (cue shameless plug).

There’s value in the chaos, but it’s still not an excuse. Neither is your budget. No one cares. One thing that’s becoming pretty clear (if it wasn’t already), is how the smaller your budget is, the more you need to be on top of things. There’s precious little room for error. You can’t afford to lose half a day because you didn’t confirm the start date with your lead until the night before. Think I’m exaggerating? I wish.

On one shoot this month, a film desperately behind schedule broke for lunch. Only, there was no food. None at all. No one knew where it was. 45 minutes later, it arrived, which was 45 minutes that production will never get back. Set-ups lost forever. That can be an eternity on a micro-budget shoot. And what was gained (other than the fact that I got to take a much-needed nap)? Not a damn thing.

Sun Center Studios

Thankfully, the whole month wasn’t one big cancellation. We visited a number of friends and backers way up in Minnesota, sat in on the overdubbing of music for a lesbian musical, visited a casting call where someone’s headshot was a mostly nude photo of him in his bathroom (his camera phone covering his face, naturally), reunited with some of the crew of my upcoming film UP COUNTRY, found some free beer for your next production (more on that later), and hung out with a Playboy model (only, no one told me until days later).

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All in all, a pretty interesting month.

The high point of the month, fittingly enough, came courtesy of a cancellation. Stranded in Pittsburgh, the phone rang from fellow filmmaker (and one of the producers of my upcoming film UP COUNTRY) Sean Hackett. His film HOMECOMING would be screening in Erie–a mere 2 hours away–and he wondered if I’d be interested in adding it to the itinerary.

Absolutely.

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I’d seen an early cut last summer, maybe even the first one, so I was anxious to see what they’d done with it. Turns out quite a lot. Whereas I remembered the first cut as a film that wasn’t sure what it wanted to be, the final product was one of the more assured indie debuts I’ve seen in a long time. Revolving around Brea Grant’s lead performance as an army medic, HOMECOMING is a beautifully apolitical film that explores the impact of war on a soldier’s extended family back home.

Perhaps what’s most interesting (at least to me) is that Sean has managed to make an indie film about the war in Afghanistan without falling into the traps so many first-time directors do of trying to “sell” the war with footage in some quasi desert somewhere that tries really, really, really hard to look authentic. And of course, it never does. The film spends half the budget on something that ultimately looks pretty good, but still somewhat obviously faked.

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Instead, Sean puts Brea Grant and another actor in the back of van, outfits them in authentic military gear, and does in 10 seconds what a lesser film would spend days on. There’s no need to show off what awesome stuff they can do if it doesn’t serve the story.

It’s something that so often in the indie film world we forget in our constant goal to look like a “real movie”. We don’t need the big battle scene. Hell, we can’t afford it anyway. So why try and force it when there’s smaller ways to get the same effect? Spend that energy on making your characters real and the rest of it will take care of itself.

As the costs of production come down, and the barriers to distribution fall, it’ll be interesting to see how filmmakers react. Sure, all the walls are crumbling, but so are all the built-in excuses. You can’t blame your budget anymore. Or the programmers at Sundance. It’s just you and your work on a screen somewhere. No place to hide.

And, yes, earlier I did say “free beer”. A brewery in Minnesota with a history of lending a hand to indie film productions has a pretty fantastic offer on the table. I’ll let them explain:

Filmmaker Lucas McNelly is spending a year on the road, volunteering on indie film projects around the country, documenting the process and the exploring the idea of a mobile creative professional. You can see more from A Year Without Rent at the webpage. Follow him on Twitter: @lmcnelly.

 

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  • GustavLebon

    dude, what did you expect? that’s what happens when you embark upon a half-baked idea like a year without rent. if you would’ve done more planning then you wouldn’t find yourself in this type of situation. what your project is showing us is what we already knew- most indie movies are horrible, made by lackluster filmmakers that are all ego and no talent.

    i’m still waiting for you to work on a movie that other people might care about or want to see. it looks like those thousands of dollars you raised on kickstarter are being well spent (sarcasm). also, i think you should stop with the shameless self-promotion, but then again i knew this project of yours was just a horribly veiled attempt at promoting yourself and your work instead of the work of others.

    • http://thesabicompany.com Zak Forsman

      I hardly think Lucas is to blame. Maybe he’s not getting what he’d hoped for, but the lessons are valuable.

      • GustavLebon

        right, lucas isn’t to blame for his laziness and half-baked idea. it’s a shame that not only he swindled so many people to give him money for such a lame idea, but also b/c he takes up space on this website that could be used for more important and relevant work. the lessons are valuable???? i don’t recall him ever stating in his kickstarter campaign about this project simply being a lesson to learn. if that was the case he should’ve had the humility to not ask people to support such an exercise in futility.

        @norestrictionsent are you a gustav lebon expert? i love how you make no mention of mr lebon’s most important work about crowd psychology. you and mr. forsman’s defense of mr mcnelly proves how dumb people can be when they are controlled by group think. base pajama is correct in saying indie film is just one big incestuous circle jerk that is truly misguided.

        • http://thesabicompany.com Zak Forsman

          Do you actually want to talk about this, or hurl insults around?

        • http://twitter.com/momentsoffilm Leilani Holmes

          Sweetie if you’re worried that the internet is going to run out of space because Lucas and his project are taking a page of it up then I think you’re perhaps fretting overmuch.

          And if you really are concerned how I and my contemporaries spend our money then by all means pop around and I will make you a nice cup of tea and explain to you, penny for penny, how Lucas’ YWOR compares in value to the rest of the stuff I spend a few pence a week on. Actually it’s quite a decent bargain. And I do make a very nice cup of tea. A calming brew will perhaps help you with the stomach ulcer you seem to be giving yourself with all this bile.

          You are throwing your opinions around very freely but I suspect that if you really did believe indie film was one big incestuous circle jerk then you wouldn’t be here reading a blog about indie film in the first place. In fact if you believed anything you were saying then I suspect you would be using your real name. In fact, who are you to criticise? Who are you to presume to speak on the backers behalf. Who are you at all?

    • http://twitter.com/NoRestrictions No Restrictions Ent.

      GustavLebon. I hardly take your words into consideration given that I have followed Lucas for two years on Twitter and know he has heart.

      Ironically, the name you’ve chosen to post under – Gustav Le Bon – social psychologist, sociologist, and amateur physicist
      -
      is a man known in history for making a lot of noise among his peers but when it came to his specific formulations, they were not given much consideration by his peers. The discoveries/claims that he made, one of them a term he coined as “black light” were later discovered not to exist. So I ask, “where is your crowdfunding campaign for that full-baked idea you have in that brilliant mind of yours?” I wish to see it so that we can all marvel in your talents and wash ourselves in the glory of your
      achievement
      .

      One thing about art and it’s imperfections is the commitment of the artist to find themselves in their work. It is the discovery of yourself in the process, often when faced with challenges, that enrich our lives by finding meaning in our work.

      Maybe that’s what Gustav Le Bon was missing.

    • http://twitter.com/NoRestrictions No Restrictions Ent.

      @GustavLebron Sigmund Freud, Wilfred Trotter, Gabriel Tarde, Elias Canetti Julia Constintine and Carl Jung all contributed to crowd psychology – sadly, as much as you may want to fantasize, Gustav wasn’t the only one.

      And I’ll ask again: “where is your crowdfunding campaign for that full-baked idea you have in that brilliant mind of yours?”

  • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_IMXS4L52EWM3KWSY2VYG6LTZ4I Base Pajama

    Gotta agree with Gustav. Lucas is a shameless self-promoter whose own films are totally unwatchable messes of video footage. The glowing reviews he gets – exclusively from fellow filmmaker friends – further the notion that indie film is one giant incestuous circle jerk. And his arrogance and pretension don’t do the rest of us any favors, either.

    His only talent comes in browbeating friends, family and even strangers into supporting his uninspired work and utterly lazy lifestyle. That this guy was somehow able to extort $16,000 in charity, where previous generations of filmmakers worked, saved and took huge personal risks, is the real story here. How about doing an article on that?

    • http://twitter.com/fnafilms zahra

      I wasn’t going to comment – as I don’t like to feed trolls and haters… but I’ve got a big mouth and now I’ve stewed for a couple hours I have to say something here. Gustav, Base and John G – what’s up with you guys??? Why all the hating? What’s Lucas done exactly to piss you off so much? Please tell me – what he has done that is so bad that you openly castigate him on this open forum? This forum that was given to him by the folks at Filmmaker Magazine – because *they* believe in “A Year Without Rent” and by extension Lucas McNelly. Not only do the good people of FMM believe in Lucas, so do all of the people who backed his Kickstarter campaign – why by extension includes me! Your allusion – scratch that – your ALLEGATION – Base – that Lucas EXTORTED money from people to finance this project is not only SLANDEROUS – it is also insulting to Mr McNelly’s integrity and my (and my fellow funders’) intelligence. We aren’t dumb. We weren’t duped or browbeaten by Lucas – and actually some of us are enjoying this project and the feeling of helping out our filmmaking peers! And if you did your research you’d find that “A Year Without Rent” is backed by some pretty shit hot luminaries of the independent filmmaking community – should I tell Ted Hope he was pwned by the upstart con-artsist Lucas McNelly or will you?Finally as for the supposed “crime” of self promotion – we have a wonderful saying in the North East of England, “If you don’t blow your own trumpet, don’t expect anyone else to.” It’s filmmaking – show business, a business that survives and thrives on self promotion (and all other forms of promotion). So get a life, grow up, apologise and don’t let the green-eyed monster turn you into a bitter old sourpuss. Love and kisses Zahra

      • GustavLebon

        @twitter-75984087:disqus  
        i’m not a troll, i’m not a hater, i am a voice of reason in this sea of
        self-indulgent circle jerking.  i have nothing against lucas
        personally, i’ve never met him, but from an objective point of view his
        work doesn’t deserve the attention it receives.  if any of lucas’
        supporters had the balls to be honest, then they too would see that his
        work is lackluster, but rather than being honest with him you all just
        pat him on the back with hollow flattery and useless positivity.  this
        does nothing to appeal to an outside audience.   

        “shit hot luminaries of the independent film community”…now that’s comedy.  that statement means nothing to anyone outside of this “community” you speak of.  in fact it shows just how ignorant you are of the outside world, the world that doesn’t give two sh!ts about the self-indulgent, myopic work of these self-annointed “luminaries”. 

        the goal of all indie filmmakers should be to break out of this little incestuous circle jerk and grow the community, show the outside world that ‘independent’ doesn’t have to be synonymous with ‘crap’.  however, supporting projects like aywr does the exact opposite.  lucas’ project has no appeal whatsoever to outsiders, even more so it has very little appeal to other indie filmmakers besides the ones that want his attention.  if anything, it shows outsiders that indie film is in fact an exercise in futility perpetuated by idiots and gives them even more reason not to support indie filmmakers.

        @fe31f8c29c01cad1ba3f21a97cc685ab:disqus   way to stroke your own ego in your response.  were you jerking off while you wrote that?  you take yourself and your filmmaking way way way too seriously.  you’re making a damn movie for christ’s sake, not finding the cure for cancer.  there is a very simple way of figuring out how to allow lucas on your set, it’s called not being a pompous egomaniacal prick that thinks he’s so important that he can’t allow “unknown variables” into the mix. 

        • http://thesabicompany.com Zak Forsman

          riiiiiight, god forbid someone take movies and movie-making seriously.  I mean, eliminating as many unknowns as possible kinda goes straight to the heart of running a set that people enjoy being on.  that’s how you avoid the above mentioned lunch delays and other morale killers.  

          and “a pompous egomaniacal prick”?  lol.  clearly, we’ve never met.  I’m actually a pretty nice guy. :)

        • http://twitter.com/fnafilms zahra

          Dear Gustav

          Tell me where does Lucas’ work get all of this attention? It gets this attention in the Filmmaker Magazine and in the indie world that you are so derisory of! He’s hardly garnering Academy Awards – and I think you’ll find if you studied the industry that you are so desperately trying to protect from charlatans like Lucas, me and our fellow circle-jerkers like Zak Forman then you’d know that Ted Hope is a bona-fide shit hot luminary of the independent filmmaking world!

          Normally I wouldn’t continue to indulge an ignorant dipshit such as yourself – but I am in Cannes at the Festival (you have heard of that, haven’t you?) and to read this thread has cost me $60 in roaming charges! So I’m damned if I’m gonna let it slide.

          Yes we are making movies, not curing cancer – but regardless, at the budget levels most of us are working at chances are we’re not paying union minimum – and in fact possibly not paying at all!  The least you can do under these circumstances is be fucking organised! We know cast might drop out – whether might be shitty  and that a whole host of things could make your production go tits up – but as the de facto producer of the film it is your job to control as many of the variables as aspossible to reduce the risk of the plug being pulled.  That’s called being a producer. And when you are taking advantage of “charity” – someone’s goodwill if you like (which is essentially what A Year Without Rent buys you) then it’s really shitty to be disorganised and drop people in the shit! All those fuck ups and cancellations cost money – OTHER PEOPLE’S MONEY!  Some of us are European and stand no chance of reaping the benfits of the project and speaking wholly for myself here – I begrudge my money being wasted by disorganised dipshits who couldn’t produce a piss sample let alone a feature film!

          So really what you’re umping your gums about is a new-ish filmmaker who hasn’t made their magnum-opus helping other disorganised dipshits making films and then covering it for their funders and the community at large!  And yet we’re the petts small-minded people? 

          Get a life!

          • GustavLebon

            @twitter-75984087:disqus  you’re wasting time and money on replying to this dumb thread and i’m the one that needs to get a life…hmm…okay…i know if i was in cannes the last thing on my mind would be a stupid posting on filmmaker magazine, but then again i would never waste my time or money going to cannes for one big incestuous circle jerk.

          • http://twitter.com/fnafilms zahra

            Hahahaha – that is the single funniest thing I’ve ever read. Making films is circle-jerking, helping on films is circle-jerking and now going to the World’s Biggest Film Market is circle-jerking… Do I detect a pattern here??? Perhaps if you dislike film so much you should cease reading Filmmaker Magazine – let me buy you a subscription to Guns And Ammo Mag or better still Circle Jerk Monthly – I hear you are Mr October!

          • http://twitter.com/StudioAlethea Nathan M. Schilz

            “Gustav” are you a filmmaker? You seem to have such a distaste and jadedness towards them. If you are not a filmmaker, then why are you reading this article to begin with? If you ARE a filmmaker, then why do you have such a hatred for the community? Do you think that you can achieve success by tearing down  people on your way “to the top?” Your anonymity will protect you in this particular trite projection of your own failure, but your attitude will eventually be come to light, and your unwillingness to recognize that you are part of a community will destroy your supposed career.

          • GustavLebon

            really???  you think these harmless comments are tearing someone down???  if you do, then you need to get a sense of humor and stop taking yourself so damn seriously.  this community you speak of isn’t as important as its members like to think they are.

      • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_IMXS4L52EWM3KWSY2VYG6LTZ4I Base Pajama

        Disregarding those who criticize you as “trolls” is such a classic indie-circle-jerk move. “Don’t feed the trolls, don’t feed the trolls” is a mantra you see repeated over and over again on blogs like these.  Verbatim, too.  Independent filmmakers actually have a lot in common with political conservatives, in that they both mindlessly employ tired catch phrases to defend their own delusional beliefs.  Fixating on the messenger, rather than the message, is another common tactic.  Basically, anything to avoid confrontation of ACTUAL IDEAS…

        • http://twitter.com/fnafilms zahra

          Constantly knocking those who seize the initiative and make stuff and get it out there, then criticising those who disagree with your opinion is both troll-like and childish. As I said above AND below – what is it exactly is it that Lucas has done wrong???  Confront me with your ideas in a mature and reasoned fashion, then you’ll have some credibility – until then go back under your bridge and bark at the Gruff Brothers.

          • GustavLebon

            @twitter-75984087:disqus  look at you mr. high and mighty.  who do you think you are exactly?  it’s very self-important of you to think that people posting on here have to gain your approval.  what credibility do you have?   

            lucas hasn’t done anything wrong per se.  i just don’t believe his project is worthy of any recognition from the indie film community at large.  that’s my opinion and it’s my right to express it.  i don’t give a sh!t if you agree with it or not.  your approval means absolutely nothing.  actually, i’m right b/c not many people will care about what lucas is doing except his friends and those filmmakers that he chooses to write about. 

            people within the indie community always complain about the death of indie film…well, it’s dead specifically b/c the tastemakers choose to give recognition to projects [like lucas'] that don’t deserve recognition.  if a curious bystander stopped by this site to see what indie film was all about and they stumbled upon this posting, then i guarantee you they’d conclude that indie film is stupid and not worth their time.  if that’s what filmmaker magazine wants to promote, then sobeit.   

            just b/c someone has the initiative to make stuff doesn’t mean they have the merit to be mentioned on filmmaker magazine.  the only reason he gets space on this site is b/c of the cliquish nature of this industry.  it’s very apparent that nepotism is what gets him recognition here and not merit.  that’s my point, which is very valid.  if you can’t see that, then it’s b/c you’re too concerned with kissing the asses of the gatekeepers and not interested in being honest.

          • http://twitter.com/fnafilms zahra

            I am nobody – though if I were somebody, I’d be Mrs High and Mighty, thanks.  I don’t think asking someone (who is insulting me and my intelligence) to articulate their arguments in a reasoned way if they wish me to consider what they say as anything more than trolling.  I guess what I find sad about filmmaking and filmmakers is the bile they continually spout at each other. 

            Lucas came up with (what in my not so humble opinion) is a kinda cool project – which is to criss-cross the US helping fellow filmmakers make their films and more importantly using the profile of AYWR to promote those films and help get them into Joe Public’s consciousness.  FMM have kindly given him a forum with which to keep us all informed – I’m sure you agree that reading about other people’s process and ideas is a great way to learn and improve your own projects.  Yet when I come on here to read about the progress of a project I funded all I see in the comments is you and your fellow haters acting like classless tacky trolls.  

            Even if I hate(d) Lucas and his project I wouldn’t come on here and slate him – it’s just an asshole thing to do.  I have never met Lucas in real life – and he could be a massive douche – but he doesn’t come across as anymore of as asshole than anybody else online – and he certainly doesn’t appear to deserve the stick you guys have given him.  You seem to have a problem with other people disagreeing with you – yet you are quite happy to sling mud from behind your pseudonym… that’s not my problem and I certainly don’t have to temper my responses to you – if you don’t like the heat…  As for the tastemakers and gatekeepers they can kiss my oversized ass – couldn’t give a flying fuck what they think of me or my work… “I never take myself seriously – cause everybody knows fat birds don’t fly!”

            x

  • John G

    What a waste of money. Lucas, please do everyone a favor and give up on this project now. Seriously. Donate whatever money you have left to charity and stop wasting it on stupid things like long term parking.

  • http://twitter.com/StudioAlethea Nathan M. Schilz

    If you don’t have balls enough to post using your real name, then I would encourage you to refrain from posting and leave discussion to the adults.

  • http://twitter.com/mattsontomlin mattson tomlin

    Interesting. From both sides.

    As the first filmmaker to be featured on A Year Without Rent, I was able to witness first hand some of the bumps that the project had/has yet to smooth out, and there were certainly bumps. I willingly participated in this project, having zero idea what I was getting myself into (and visa versa in some ways) and, quite honestly, am still not sure what I’ve gotten myself into, and probably won’t form a conclusive opinion until the project’s year is up, I think it’s important to remember it’s a work in progress. Is it a good work in progress? Well, tbd. But that goes the same for my movie. And probably yours, too. I don’t think I’m unfair in saying that this phase of a Year Without Rent is very much the first draft. What is the final product? Not these blog posts, Perhaps an awkwardly public and sometimes expensive first draft, there’s a final product out there that we are all not really talking about, but quietly awaiting. Honestly, I think you might be missing the point, and if you can’t tell, I’m not someone who is staunchly supporting Lucas, just trying to be objective. This project is all about control. Filmmakers control how their movie looks. They chose what still shots got up on facebook, on the website. They cut together a trailer for a certain feel. They want to be perceived a certain way. For better or worse, allowing Lucas McNelly into your set is signing away that control. It’s a scary thing, and something I’m not sure I would do again, and people get to see that. Sometimes it’s not always flattering. Sometimes it’s downright silly the way some of us look. Sometimes it’s a triumph. Sometimes it’s a wash. The point is, none of us have control of what light our films will be cast by this man. And that’s kind of fucking interesting. So sure, shameless self promotion, and a whole lot of bumps. The final product is not this article, or the articles to follow. It’s not his film, or my film, or any of the other filmmakers films that are the final product. Part performance piece, part documentary, part shameless plugging. Who knows what else. So unless you’re a disgruntled backer who feels cheated out of their money- I would just be patient. And if you are indeed a severely disgruntled backer, I’m sure the indy community would be happy to start up a kickstarter and get you back your money.M.

    • http://thesabicompany.com Zak Forsman

      thanks for your take, mattson. I can see your point of view. there was a time when I debated whether or not to humbly ask lucas to consider coming to LA for a production I’m ramping up to later this year. but after seeing the nature of some of the first blog posts, I realized it’s just introducing an unknown during a very fragile and vulnerable time: mid-production. I mean, I’ve had actors and crew members come back saying they miss how well run our sets are at @thesabicompany:twitter, but still, part of that reputation comes from cutting down the variables and the unknowns that AYWR might introduce. there must be a way to do it, but i haven’t been able to figure out how to coordinate it with our own defined “voice” for social media efforts without setting limits and parameters. which kinda defeats the purpose of what he’s doing, right?

      I definitely wish lucas a fruitful journey and look forward to following along throughout the rest of the year and when he comes thru LA I look forward to meeting him. I’m glad there are filmmakers more daring than I who are opening their productions to him! :)

  • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_IMXS4L52EWM3KWSY2VYG6LTZ4I Base Pajama

    Posting anonymously does not in any way invalidate or diminish one’s argument, Nathan. Please consider the content of each post when trying to formulate your response, rather than its originator. You’ll find it’s easier to stick to the issues when you do so.

    • Nathan M. Schilz

      Inflammatory remarks are not discussion. If you are such a coward to not post your name, your opinion, whether well-formed or not, is worthless. The anonymity of the internet is great for trolls, but is unhelpful, unhealthy, and ridiculous for posing ideas and engaging in actual adult discourse. So, if you create pseudonyms in order to save face, your words are to be rightfully ignored by persons seeking to find truth and to learn from each other through our differences.

      • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_IMXS4L52EWM3KWSY2VYG6LTZ4I Base Pajama

        Like I said, anonymity does not invalidate my point, “Nathan.”  Nor were my remarks inflammatory in nature.  I simply put forth an opinion, which you are free to consider or ignore, depending on your own insecurities.

        And for the record, I choose not to use my name because I don’t want it associated with Lucas’s.  Nor do I want it associated with independent film, which I consider to be a lazy, self-absorbed circle jerk of delusional misfits who relentlessly stoke their own inflated egos to overcompensate for whatever talents they subconsciously hate themselves for lacking.

      • GustavLebon

        @3a4bd1580602a29e7acf9185d02bdf84:disqus  i hate to break it to you, but your opinion means absolutely nothing.  i checked out your work, it’s subpar at best. 

        anonymity doesn’t discredit anyone’s opinion.  in fact my anonymous opinion clearly has more value than your ass-kissing ignorant comments.  i hide behind anonymity to prevent baseless attacks from mr mcnelly’s mindless minions that will defend him against type of criticism.  that’s the problem with this incestuous circle jerk, it causes its members to attack outsiders that offer any type of constructive criticism and causes them to act like a pack of wolves.

        thanks for making yourself known, i will make sure NEVER to hire you and i’m sure no one else reading this will hire you either.  i know you think by defending this community that they will accept you into their ranks, but sorry douchenoggle, that will never happen.

        fyi, don’t attack anonymous posters, you never know who they are.  they could be well established artists simply having fun and starting a conversation on an otherwise boring post. 

  • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_43SEJD73LUQLUC7R6X4I3VJ5XY jkd

    wow, an entire group of adults so clueless that none of them realized that lunch was not actually ready at craft, then losing 3/4 hour due to that; likely it was non-union and there was no lunch penalty hovering above their heads, so why the misfire?

    • Dave Bullis

      Jkd,

      Like all the other haters here. Nothing I say will change your attitude of my project (Game Over)  and/or Lucas. 
      We had been shooting virtually non stop since 8am, so when 2-3pm rolled around we were told by a producer, food had arrived. When we (meaning myself and the crew) realized this, we were going to go back to shot more, however the hard drives (Firestore) were transfering so we couldn’t stop them anyway. 

      We shot this project with the SAG New media contract.

      Now I would like to hear your film background. What have you made and where can we all see it? 

  • Tom Quinn

    Holy hell.  This thread is craziness.

    However, it needs to be said: Zak is an EXTREMELY nice guy.     He’s also someone who puts a great deal of time into 1. Supporting other filmmakers; 2. Learning and growing as a “maker” of films; 3. Fostering a community and dialog within that. 

    We’re all on the web to self-promote, whether it be our products or opinions.   If someone raises money on Kickstarter or made a project that bugs you, all you can do is throw your hat in the ring, work hard to have it seen, and try to have that work speak your argument.  Anything else is posturing.

     

  • Oh Bother.

     I love that Lucas has haters.  Self-promotion =promotion = cheap !  look at his budgets for his films! It’s amazing what he does on the budget he has.  And I would call his self-promoting/ fundraising on kickstarter and beyond an indication that he is NOT lazy.  Egotistical? perhaps, but aren’t all artists? A good guy? yes.  An interesting project that may have not been totally planned? maybe… but he is doing it.  Bravo!

  • http://twitter.com/shackett Sean Hackett

    Probably every one of these “haters” are the people who bailed on Lucas in the first place.   Lucas is going around giving random strangers help / epk and sleeping on floors/couches/cots for a year and he’s doing this for an “ego trip”  or “circle jerk?”

    I personally love that he’s going on a journey with a planned outline that can be constantly changed.  That makes it a more interesting doc , IMO. 

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